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February 12, 2009 [feather]
The way we were

One of the sticking points in debates about higher ed reform centers on the way we think about the past. Sketching broadly, in one iteration of the argument, there are the folks who argue that we need change because educational standards are declining, and then there are the folks who dismiss that argument by claiming that the reformers are invoking an uninformed and nostalgic image of a better-schooled past that never happened. They have a good derisive laugh at the people who would like to see constructive change, and they carry on, secure in the knowledge of their superior historicity and complacently comfortable with a status quo that serves them better than the students whose futures are in their hands.

This dead-ending is one of my pet peeves, and I often think that the folks who would like to see reform should just stop talking about the past in order to avoid this kind of reaction from the academics who need to be convinced to take responsibility for educating today's students--and for making the changes that would require. No need to invoke the past, after all. Just talk about the now. Instead of saying we aren't educating as well as we used to, just argue that we aren't educating as well as we need to. That's demonstrably true, and it focusses us on the present and the future it will create in important ways.

Still, it's interesting all the same to encounter the rare college professor who has been around long enough to be able to make some strong qualitative--and eminently quantifiable--claims about how the students of today compare to those of yesteryear.

Here's J. Edward Ketz, a Penn State accounting professor who has been teaching college for 35 years, and has some interesting things to say about what students used to know--and what they no longer do:


Compared with the students in the 1970s, today's students are uneducated and unfit for a college education.

Before proceeding, let me enunciate two premises. First, I do not think there is any significant difference between the two groups in terms of native, raw intelligence. Instead, the distinction between yesterday's and today's students when they first set foot on college campuses rests in their educational backgrounds, analytical thinking, quantitative skills, reading abilities, willingness to work, and their attitudes concerning the educational process. In short, they differ in terms of their readiness for college. Second, I am focusing on the average student who majors in accounting. Both groups arise from a distribution of students. The lower tail of yesteryear's population had some weak students, and the upper tail of the present-day population has some very strong students; however, when one focuses on the means of these two distributions, he or she finds a huge gap.

To begin, today's average accounting major cannot perform what used to be Algebra I and II in high school. Students cannot solve simultaneous equations. Students have difficulty with present value computations, not to mention formula derivations. Students even have difficulty employing the high-low method to derive a cost function, something that merely requires one to estimate a straight line from two points.

I would like to discuss in class the partial derivative of a present value formula to ascertain the impact of changes in interest rates, but that has become a fruitless enterprise. Even if students had a course in calculus, the exams probably had multiple choice questions so students guessed their way through the course, they don’t remember what they learned, and whatever they learned was mechanical and superficial.

Thirty years ago I required my Intermediate Accounting students to derive the future and present value formulas, including the present value of a perpetuity, which requires a knowledge of limits. I gave up on that endeavor over a decade ago when I observed that the average student had no idea what I was talking about.

Worse, they didn't care.

Today's students cannot read at what used to be a tenth-grade level. I learned this dramatically when I wrote a couple of textbooks in the 1990s. Editors at both publishing houses insisted that I rewrite my materials so today's student could read it. I was forbidden to employ large or "fancy" words and had to simplify the grammar. For example, both editors told me never to compose a sentence with a subordinate clause because it was too complex for students to understand.

Today's students cannot read critically. For example, I can assign an SEC litigation release for class, but students cannot read it for detail, nor can they discern the key points of the document. If I really want them to perceive anything, I have to tell them. Of course, that doesn't work in the long run because I won't be there in the future to help them read SEC essays.


Ketz goes on to speculate about the why of it all, citing the usual suspects--failure of K-12 education, the self-esteem movement's hijacking of of our culture, breakdown of family, failure of universities to insist on qualified students and uninflated grades. You won't find anything in that part of the article that you haven't seen before. But the "why" is perhaps, at this point, less important than simply establishing the "what." There is so much denial about that--and until we can get people to agree on the nature of the problem, explanations and solutions are really beside the point.

Link via Joanne Jacobs.

posted on February 12, 2009 8:44 AM




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Comments:

Interesting. I wonder, though, if part of what he is seeing is a selection of majors that differs from that of 30 years ago. I notice that his school has a Finance program as well as an Accounting program--maybe there are people who would once have been Accounting majors who are now Finance majors??

The description of the Accounting major at Penn State/Smeal includes the following:

"Accountants are professionals who help individuals, business firms, or governmental agencies plan for and oversee their financial operations. They have been trained to "work with figures," to pay strict attention to details, and to maintain order in the financial and operational aspects of their work."

If I were trying to recruit people with a high level of conceptual intelligence, I think I might re-phrase this paragraph a bit.

The description of the Finance program comes across a little differently:

"Finance focuses on how individuals and business organizations raise money and capital, and how those resources are allocated among competing investment and consumption opportunities. The field focuses on domestic and international financial economies and the role of financial markets and institutions key in the movement of savings and investment capital from lenders to borrowers. It also deals with how individuals and corporate managers evaluate alternative investment and savings opportunities and how they choose among various financial instruments."


Posted by: david foster at February 12, 2009 11:41 AM



One might be able to argue that Ketz's accounting classes are filled with incapable students because they are naturally attracted to less interesting majors and are seduced by mundane course descriptions, whereas brighter students are not. However, if Ketz is accurate about the competencies he sees among his students, what cannot be argued away is the fact that Penn State is admitting students who can't perform arithmetic operations as simple as solving simultaneous equations, a skill one once acquired in seventh grade. Erin is asking us to think about the skills and knowledge students ought to have when they leave and enter educational institution. Recognizing that if it was once possible for students to gain such basic competencies, it ought to be possible now, helps frame that discussion.

Posted by: jc at February 13, 2009 11:16 AM



jc...to be clear, I'm not arguing that differences in student choice of majors is the only cause or even the primary cause of the problem that Prof Ketz is describing. It may be, however, one factor, and he should really address it if only to explain why it is not a satisfactory explanation.. But there's indeed increasing evidence that the amount of genuine learning going on in America's educational institutions, is a lot less that it should be given the vast investment in human time & effort, not to mention money...see Erin's "Lincoln" post for another example.

I thought this passage from the essay was particularly disturbing:

"Today’s students cannot read critically. For example, I can assign an SEC litigation release for class, but students cannot read it for detail, nor can they discern the key points of the document. If I really want them to perceive anything, I have to tell them."

The number of finance & accounting people who employ partial derivatives, is, I'm pretty sure, fairly small. But just about everyone in this field, as in many others, needs the ability to read and understand complex documents.

Posted by: david foster at February 13, 2009 6:14 PM